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Human Dess (Deltarune Theory)

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So while I'm not the first to bring this theory up, this post will be examining the theory that Dess is, in fact, a human. For the first notable evidence, in the Xbox version of Undertale, sans mentions "The antlered girl and her big sister". The way this is phrased implies there's something special about either Noelle or Dess in this instance. Though admittedly this is shakey due to the whole "kill all humans" thing the monsters have in undertale, so either A) Dess pulled a literal jesus and revived herself post-true pacifist (as asgore alludes to her being alive in the undertale alarm clock, EDIT: but the only other mention of her is from sans who mentions her in the context of a blizzard from an unknown point in the past), B) Rudy used his "best friends with asgore" card to get the monsters off his daughter's back (presumably via faking her death) while his family lived in seclusion or C) she's a monster in that universe instead, which makes this piece of evidence fall kinda flat.

The next bit of evidence is that she has a lot of shoes, plantigrade-shaped shoes to be specific. While she does have a pair of shoes fit for a hooved monster (edit: unseen by the way), and the aforementioned shoes could just be an oversight, the fact those hooved shoes are found in a box alongside a bunch of other stuff that aren't hers (like Asriel's retainer), EDIT: not to mention the ice skates she has in her closet and the pair of roller blades which there is check dialouge for but never specifies whether they fit hooves or not (its also strange in general that the unseen pair of shoes is specified as being fit for hooves yet the clearly plantigrade roller blades aren't).

In speaking of her closet, Carol seems to be obsessed with hearts, having a bunch of them in Dess's Closet in particular. Considering how she goes as far as to preserve her daughter's paper snowflakes by bronzing them as ninja stars, this could tie to Dess's human SOUL. EDIT: It's also strange in general why they are there in the first place, considering its doubtful carol put them in post-dessappearance and there's no inplication that dess has an obsession with humans (i feel like that would be brought by now, though i don't doubt the possibility), so I definitely feel like toby wants us to notice this environmental detail.

However, there's this one odd detail that could tie this up in a bow. In the Dreemur household, there are both monster and human-shaped cookie cutters. In the Holiday Mansion, though, there are only the monster-shaped ones, so far so logical. Its phrased kinda weird to me "In the cupboard are... cutters for gingerbread monsters", but fine enough. However, when getting the gingerbread guard from chapter 3 and going into chapter 4 its specifically states that something is missing (implied to be the gingerbread men cookie cutters, which are currently equiped as the gungerbread guard). Its sorta strange to me how it brings up this fact in a strangely coy manner: "The cupboard. It seems to be missing... things". This feels like its going to have some kinda of implication regarding Dess.

Potential Chara Parallels

I'll be missed to not bringing up an interesting observation if this theory (and that dess is the knight) is true, there could be interesting Chara parallels we could draw from this (hell they might even straight up be Deltarune's version of chara, similar to Kris being Deltarune Frisk). For one, we see one of Asriel's Sweaters in her closet, and in Undertale, Asriel shares a similar shirt to Chara there.

9 is stated to be Chara's favourite number, and when the knight SWOONS you it knocks you down to -999 HP. We also know Chara has a thing with knives, and the knight's weapon (which we know the name of via the Black Shard) is the Black Knife, and Chara is often associated with knives (including the genocide-exclusive REAL Knife).

There's also the matter of Asriel's connection to Seam, what with a drawing of him appearing on his desktop, and it's implied that Dess is into making plushes (as per the frayed yard and buttons in one of the boxes in her room and her helping dess make the angel plush). It could also be possible that Dess might be the original "girl with hope crossed her heart", meaning there's a non-zero percent chance that Asriel and Dess might've been involved in the dark world before. Potentially leading to a reverse scenario where Asriel's actions inadvertently led to Dess becoming the Knight, where in Undertale it's Chara's actions that idirectly led to Asriel to becoming flowey.

How this could tie to Dess being the Knight

While this does lead to interesting revelations in regards to Dess and her relationship to Kris, potentially acting as his anchor before she disappeared and why Kris would be so willing to (potentially) backstab their friends, there is one thought i have in regards to Dess being a human and thats found in the Asriel boss fight in Undertale.

You see, when you are knocked down to 0 hit points during the fight instead of dying like normal the soul repairs itself after splitting in half, with it stating "but it refused" the first time this happens. The fight itself last for only a couple of minutes, but what if this ability is stretch to its absolute limits and a human tries to pull an Undyne the Undying as long as feasably possible.

I propose the Roaring Knight is the result of Dess trying to use pure determination to keep herself alive far longer than she should be able to, likely from some unknown injury that led to her going missing for years before resurfacing. This is just an idea unrelated to the wider "Dess is a human" theory, but I do feel like it's something I should point out as a possibility.

EDIT: The roaring knight is more likely Dess's soul in the lightworld, as I theorised here.

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dont-touch-the-flower-child

let's talk about Dess Holiday a little.

for all these stories telling us how awesome and cool she was...

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...she wasn't really all that popular?

i mean, Dess has been gone for years and nobody in Hometown ever mentions her. the older teens/young adults, who should be her peers, only talks to Kris about Asriel.

You'd think they're avoiding the topic of Dess for Kris' sake, but truthfully, i don't see Pizzapants and Bratty as all that tactful.

instead, i think they were just never friends with Dess, and paid little attention to her even when she was around.

i think Dess was in fact rather lonely. and we only came to think of her as this cool, badass rebel girl because of how Noelle and Kris saw her.

with Noelle, i suppose Dess maintained till the very end an image of a loving, protective big sister. Noelle remembers Dess helping her win every snow angel contest, and whacking Kris over their head when they went too far with pranks, and promising to take her to a city of shining lights.

but i don't think that's the full story of their sisterhood. rather, i believe Dess had kept her bitterer, more complicated feelings for Noelle hidden, and this was where Kris came in.

but first, let's take a look at what Dess was like.

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(screenshot by @willytor)

she was messy and unfocused. she was rowdy and dirty. Susie reminds Gerson of her, and Susie is aggressive, rude, implied to struggle with formal schooling, and very much ostracized by her peers.

so Dess' main friend group was like...her own sister, the boy living next door, and the neighbor boy's gremlin younger sibling.

and two of these people are just. Perfect. Noelle, sweet, polite and well-behaved, cast as the Angel that Hometowners literally worship. Asriel, so academically and socially successful. they are the faces of the Holidays and Dreemurrs, respectively, golden children of the town. they shine so bright that their siblings live under their shadows.

now, i think Asriel genuinely liked Dess, and their closeness wasn't just for show or anything.

but that doesn't mean proximity and the fact that their parents knew each other well didn't factor into this friendship. i think Dess was very aware of how out of her league Asriel was, even if she was the mayor's daughter.

i think she wasn't sure if Asriel would still be her friend if they weren't neighbors.

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and then, there was Kris.

Kris was Just Like Her. just like Dess, they were weird, unruly, an outsider. just like Dess, they have a vastly more popular and easily likeable sibling.

and i think Dess leaned on Kris as Kris leaned on Dess. the bitterness Dess couldn't exactly show Noelle? she showed to Kris. the loneliness and insecurity she couldn't tell Asriel? she let it slipped with Kris. because Kris was the only one who could possibly understand her.

well, Kris and someone else. until that someone else is gone.

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two of the dark worlds seem like attempts to relive the time when Gerson was alive and her teacher.

i do wonder if Gerson's passing was shortly before Dess' disappearance. if the loss of someone so important to her had shaken her and prompted her to do something drastic.

and I think Kris was the only witness to what happened to her.

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e1craz4life asked:

Who do you think wrote the original graffiti in "Truth or Ed"?

book-o-scams answered:

That’s actually ‘Pick an Ed’, and it’s always been something that sat wrong with me about the episode.  There are a ton of believable answers they could’ve come up with to cap off the episode, because the show at that point had done nothing but build up an army of characters who like to say mean things behind Eddy’s back. Why leave it as another unsolved mystery when it could have just as easily been something obvious, like how no one was fooled by Jonny being Melonhead?

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The main reason I feel that way is THIS is the opening shot of the story.  In one second, the storyboarders convey two people with ongoing vendettas against Eddy, currently provoked by Eddy, AND we get a glimpse of the home ec incident that motivated them.

The only evidence against either of them being the culprit is that both Jonny and Kevin are shown taking different paths than Eddy, suggesting the graffiti was the work of someone outside the class, or could have happened at any time without the Eds noticing it.  Was it just an invisible outsider trying to get the main cast’s attention?  Jimmy being passive aggressive?  It’s pretty suspicious that the Kankers are nowhere to be seen in this episode…

I’d also like to point out that the final cut of the episode ends on an odd note, with Edd just staring at the graffiti…

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I originally thought it looked like Edd was as curious about the vandal as the audience would be, and I also wouldn’t blame you if you thought it suggested Edd wrote the graffiti and was feeling guilty.  However, there’s a deleted final shot with Edd still in the school, late at night, obsessively trying to clean the wall, which I think suggests Edd is innocent and naively prioritizing cleaning over crimesolving.  Let’s be honest, Edd would have better penmanship than that.

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Look at how neatly Edd wrote “Carl.”  “HUgo” was probably Ed’s handiwork.

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Anonymous asked:

OK, what about the other characters? Any pair of consecutive episodes where things suck for them? As an aside, I say that "All Eds Are Off/Smile for the Ed" is an unfortunate twofer for Eddy as well, since in both episodes he got detention for what one of the other Eds did.

book-o-scams answered:

true true

I feel like I used to have an answer prepared, a perfect half hour of just the kids suffering….  wait… is it…

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THE KATAMARI OF COSMIC JUSTICE, EVERYONE BUT THE EDS GET TORTURED AND THEN CRUSHED BY BRICK WALLS.

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Followed by a subtle episode with a really interesting distribution of punishment…

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3XCOMBO

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These three deserve this after season 5.  And season 4.

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Especially Jimmy.

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I mean… the level of punishment is ambiguous here, very appropriate for Jonny’s fluxuating “maybe he hates us/maybe he deserves this” status.

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Even a teacher may have died in that car crash down there…

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INTERESTING PUNISHMENTS AGAIN

+100 points for Kevin

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I appreciate episodes that switch Edd and Eddy’s luck so dramatically

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Eddy’s just the coolest little monster in this episode.

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Even the Eds’ nonviolent punishment ends with the kids in distress (sans Nazz n Jimmy, which is fine) (I don’t know where Jonny is here, but it may have something to do with a deleted scene where it sounded like Sarah and Jonny were randomly attacked by a bunch of ducks. Sarah probably deserved it.)

It was the perfect half hour.

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I love the idea of Roxas befriending Kairi because he’d just let her be angry about everything. When most of their friends have some level of toxic positivity he’d just let her feel the anger and sadness about this entire situation. Her life has been interfered with since the very beginning, she’s lost not one but two homes, she’s lost her friends, she’s constantly used as a form of manipulating Sora, and then she doesn’t even get to go help save him because she needs to train? The girl has so many reasons to be angry and I think the only person who’d get that 100% is Roxas

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